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		<title>By: TOS</title>
		<link>http://svenontech.com/2005/11/17/bush-lied-and-our-brain-died/comment-page-1/#comment-12645</link>
		<dc:creator>TOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon points out another of Bush&#039;s recent lies. Here&#039;s a quote, just for you svenrox:

&quot;more than a hundred Democrats in the House and the Senate -- WHO HAD ACCESS TO THE SAME INTELLIGENCE -- voted to support removing Saddam Hussein from power. &quot;
--George W. Bush, November 11, 2005

I&#039;ve even put the lie in ALL CAPS, so you&#039;d be sure not to miss it. But since it hasn&#039;t been sanctioned by his Republican Overlords, svenrox will no doubt dismiss it -- if he&#039;s even listening at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon points out another of Bush&#8217;s recent lies. Here&#8217;s a quote, just for you svenrox:</p>
<p>&#8220;more than a hundred Democrats in the House and the Senate &#8212; WHO HAD ACCESS TO THE SAME INTELLIGENCE &#8212; voted to support removing Saddam Hussein from power. &#8221;<br />
&#8211;George W. Bush, November 11, 2005</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve even put the lie in ALL CAPS, so you&#8217;d be sure not to miss it. But since it hasn&#8217;t been sanctioned by his Republican Overlords, svenrox will no doubt dismiss it &#8212; if he&#8217;s even listening at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://svenontech.com/2005/11/17/bush-lied-and-our-brain-died/comment-page-1/#comment-12638</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess I&#039;m not up on my HTML today, here&#039;s the beef:

Presidential brief
The president&#039;s daily brief, or PDB, for Sept. 21, 2001, was prepared at the request of President Bush, the Journal reported, who was said to be eager to determine whether any linkage between the Sept. 11 attacks and the Iraqi regime existed.

And a considerable amount of the Sept. 21 PDB found its way into a longer, more detailed Central Intelligence Agency assessment of the likelihood of an al-Qaida-Iraq connection.

The Journal story reports that that assessment was released to Bush, Vice President Cheney, then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, and other senior policy-makers in the Bush administration.

The Senate Intelligence Committee has requested from the White House the detailed CIA assessment, as well as the Sept. 21 PDB and several other PDBs, as part of the committee&#039;s continuing inquiry into whether the Bush administration misrepresented intelligence information in the months before the start of the war with Iraq in March 2003.

The Bush administration has refused to surrender these documents.

“Indeed,” the Journal story reported, citing congressional sources, “the existence of the September 21 PDB was not disclosed to the Intelligence Committee until the summer of 2004.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess I&#8217;m not up on my HTML today, here&#8217;s the beef:</p>
<p>Presidential brief<br />
The president&#8217;s daily brief, or PDB, for Sept. 21, 2001, was prepared at the request of President Bush, the Journal reported, who was said to be eager to determine whether any linkage between the Sept. 11 attacks and the Iraqi regime existed.</p>
<p>And a considerable amount of the Sept. 21 PDB found its way into a longer, more detailed Central Intelligence Agency assessment of the likelihood of an al-Qaida-Iraq connection.</p>
<p>The Journal story reports that that assessment was released to Bush, Vice President Cheney, then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, and other senior policy-makers in the Bush administration.</p>
<p>The Senate Intelligence Committee has requested from the White House the detailed CIA assessment, as well as the Sept. 21 PDB and several other PDBs, as part of the committee&#8217;s continuing inquiry into whether the Bush administration misrepresented intelligence information in the months before the start of the war with Iraq in March 2003.</p>
<p>The Bush administration has refused to surrender these documents.</p>
<p>“Indeed,” the Journal story reported, citing congressional sources, “the existence of the September 21 PDB was not disclosed to the Intelligence Committee until the summer of 2004.”</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://svenontech.com/2005/11/17/bush-lied-and-our-brain-died/comment-page-1/#comment-12637</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;The president&#039;s daily brief, or PDB, for Sept. 21, 2001, was prepared at the request of President Bush, the Journal reported, who was said to be eager to determine whether any linkage between the Sept. 11 attacks and the Iraqi regime existed.

And a considerable amount of the Sept. 21 PDB found its way into a longer, more detailed Central Intelligence Agency assessment of the likelihood of an al-Qaida-Iraq connection.

The Journal story reports that that assessment was released to Bush, Vice President Cheney, then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, and other senior policy-makers in the Bush administration.

The Senate Intelligence Committee has requested from the White House the detailed CIA assessment, as well as the Sept. 21 PDB and several other PDBs, as part of the committee&#039;s continuing inquiry into whether the Bush administration misrepresented intelligence information in the months before the start of the war with Iraq in March 2003.

The Bush administration has refused to surrender these documents.

“Indeed,” the Journal story reported, citing congressional sources, “the existence of the September 21 PDB was not disclosed to the Intelligence Committee until the summer of 2004.” &quot;&gt;

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10164478/

Maybe at least you&#039;ll stop saying Congress had the same info the BA did??&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="The president's daily brief, or PDB, for Sept. 21, 2001, was prepared at the request of President Bush, the Journal reported, who was said to be eager to determine whether any linkage between the Sept. 11 attacks and the Iraqi regime existed.</p><p>And a considerable amount of the Sept. 21 PDB found its way into a longer, more detailed Central Intelligence Agency assessment of the likelihood of an al-Qaida-Iraq connection.</p>
<p>The Journal story reports that that assessment was released to Bush, Vice President Cheney, then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, and other senior policy-makers in the Bush administration.</p>
<p>The Senate Intelligence Committee has requested from the White House the detailed CIA assessment, as well as the Sept. 21 PDB and several other PDBs, as part of the committee's continuing inquiry into whether the Bush administration misrepresented intelligence information in the months before the start of the war with Iraq in March 2003.</p>
<p>The Bush administration has refused to surrender these documents.</p>
<p>“Indeed,” the Journal story reported, citing congressional sources, “the existence of the September 21 PDB was not disclosed to the Intelligence Committee until the summer of 2004.” "></p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10164478/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10164478/</a></p>
<p>Maybe at least you&#8217;ll stop saying Congress had the same info the BA did??</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
		<link>http://svenontech.com/2005/11/17/bush-lied-and-our-brain-died/comment-page-1/#comment-12573</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 04:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, now you&#039;re getting ridiculous.  Your stats are bogus and unreal.  Since you can&#039;t read my previous links supporting my claims, I will present no more.  You&#039;ve been completely trapped into the politics the Democrats are pulling on the Hill and I suggest you request to be an intern for Nancy.  She&#039;s looking for people like you.  I also suggest you &lt;a href=&quot;/?p=5743&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read my post today&lt;/a&gt; that documents what a soldier who just came back from Iraq said about all this.  

As much as you hate O&#039;Reilly, I&#039;ll give you the last word...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, now you&#8217;re getting ridiculous.  Your stats are bogus and unreal.  Since you can&#8217;t read my previous links supporting my claims, I will present no more.  You&#8217;ve been completely trapped into the politics the Democrats are pulling on the Hill and I suggest you request to be an intern for Nancy.  She&#8217;s looking for people like you.  I also suggest you <a href="/?p=5743" rel="nofollow">read my post today</a> that documents what a soldier who just came back from Iraq said about all this.  </p>
<p>As much as you hate O&#8217;Reilly, I&#8217;ll give you the last word&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TOS</title>
		<link>http://svenontech.com/2005/11/17/bush-lied-and-our-brain-died/comment-page-1/#comment-12569</link>
		<dc:creator>TOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um. As I&#039;ve pointed out early in this thread, even providing links: Congress did not have the same intelligence that Bush had. For the most part, they only had the intelligence that Bush gave them. Congress voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq, yes. This was necessary to get Saddam to allow the weapons inspectors back in. Guess what it worked. Congress has NEVER voted to declare war on Iraq formally, as REQUIRED by the constitution. This is Bush&#039;s war, PERIOD.

80% of Iraqis do not want our troops in their country. 45% of Iraqis think attacking our soldiers is justified. Our troops are experiencing DAILY terrorist attacks, not to mention terror attacks around the wold have gone up significantly since our invasion. Bush&#039;s war on terror has most definately been a failure, by any reasonable standard. You think you are safe? I would like to think so, but our borders aren&#039;t any more secure than since 9/11. If anything we are less safe.

Whether you think the war in Iraq was based on a lie or based on wrong intelligence, the war has been a mistake. You can search under every stone for some small silver lining to Bush&#039;s many failures, but to me he is the worst president of our lifetime.  The majority of americans think the war was a mistake, that Bush mislead us to go to war, and want the troops to come home, and no longer trust him. I suppose even Nixon had a few supporters to the bitter end, so you&#039;ll no doubt have some company.

This president is most definately not a saint. Thousands of people have died because of his choices. But at least we agree on one thing: Bush is a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um. As I&#8217;ve pointed out early in this thread, even providing links: Congress did not have the same intelligence that Bush had. For the most part, they only had the intelligence that Bush gave them. Congress voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq, yes. This was necessary to get Saddam to allow the weapons inspectors back in. Guess what it worked. Congress has NEVER voted to declare war on Iraq formally, as REQUIRED by the constitution. This is Bush&#8217;s war, PERIOD.</p>
<p>80% of Iraqis do not want our troops in their country. 45% of Iraqis think attacking our soldiers is justified. Our troops are experiencing DAILY terrorist attacks, not to mention terror attacks around the wold have gone up significantly since our invasion. Bush&#8217;s war on terror has most definately been a failure, by any reasonable standard. You think you are safe? I would like to think so, but our borders aren&#8217;t any more secure than since 9/11. If anything we are less safe.</p>
<p>Whether you think the war in Iraq was based on a lie or based on wrong intelligence, the war has been a mistake. You can search under every stone for some small silver lining to Bush&#8217;s many failures, but to me he is the worst president of our lifetime.  The majority of americans think the war was a mistake, that Bush mislead us to go to war, and want the troops to come home, and no longer trust him. I suppose even Nixon had a few supporters to the bitter end, so you&#8217;ll no doubt have some company.</p>
<p>This president is most definately not a saint. Thousands of people have died because of his choices. But at least we agree on one thing: Bush is a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
		<link>http://svenontech.com/2005/11/17/bush-lied-and-our-brain-died/comment-page-1/#comment-12560</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My issue isn&#039;t that &quot;Bush lied&quot;, my issue is he only made a decision on the intelligence he had.  The same intelligence high officials in Congress had.  They said the exact same thing but now it&#039;s THEM that say Bush lied.  What about them?  Why aren&#039;t we saying they lied too?  Because their Democrats and it&#039;s not allowed.

Bush is a saint.  Read &lt;a href=&quot;http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=ro+15:25&amp;version=nkj&amp;st=1&amp;sd=1&amp;new=1&amp;showtools=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Romans 15:25&lt;/a&gt; for that run down.  Yeah, he lies, I lie, you lie, Democrats lie.  We all lie. No news there but I believe Bush when he said he was honest about the information he had and the reason he went to war.

He&#039;s not a failed president.  After 9/11 and an inherited dipping economy that is now on the up for the last year and a half as well as not a single terrorist act committed on our soil since 9/11, I&#039;d say that&#039;s far from failure.  With more black home ownership and high school graduates in the history of the United States under Bush, I wouldn&#039;t call that a failure.  But since you do, then those glorious eight years under Clinton need to be re-evaluated per your definition.

BTW, the Starbucks is on every corner in your neighborhood.  Again, how soon you forget. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My issue isn&#8217;t that &#8220;Bush lied&#8221;, my issue is he only made a decision on the intelligence he had.  The same intelligence high officials in Congress had.  They said the exact same thing but now it&#8217;s THEM that say Bush lied.  What about them?  Why aren&#8217;t we saying they lied too?  Because their Democrats and it&#8217;s not allowed.</p>
<p>Bush is a saint.  Read <a href="http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=ro+15:25&amp;version=nkj&amp;st=1&amp;sd=1&amp;new=1&amp;showtools=1" rel="nofollow">Romans 15:25</a> for that run down.  Yeah, he lies, I lie, you lie, Democrats lie.  We all lie. No news there but I believe Bush when he said he was honest about the information he had and the reason he went to war.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not a failed president.  After 9/11 and an inherited dipping economy that is now on the up for the last year and a half as well as not a single terrorist act committed on our soil since 9/11, I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s far from failure.  With more black home ownership and high school graduates in the history of the United States under Bush, I wouldn&#8217;t call that a failure.  But since you do, then those glorious eight years under Clinton need to be re-evaluated per your definition.</p>
<p>BTW, the Starbucks is on every corner in your neighborhood.  Again, how soon you forget. <img src='http://svenontech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TOS</title>
		<link>http://svenontech.com/2005/11/17/bush-lied-and-our-brain-died/comment-page-1/#comment-12557</link>
		<dc:creator>TOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um. That shoud be &quot;So why is it so difficult for you to ACCEPT the lie?&quot; Dang it! Where is my Starbucks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um. That shoud be &#8220;So why is it so difficult for you to ACCEPT the lie?&#8221; Dang it! Where is my Starbucks?</p>
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		<title>By: TOS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh really? What evidence are you basing your assumption on? What, no links, no quotes? Something you heard Bill O&#039;Lielly blabbering about on Faux news? NO PROOF.

I see. So to your way of thinking Hans Blix, Richard Clarke and anyone else in a position to know what they are talking about who dare to criticise your president are lying. Bush on the otherhand is a saint, who you&#039;ll go to such lengths as to even look quite silly defending and insisting he never lied? I have to wonder, why such fanatical devotion to one politician. Politicians lie, that&#039;s how they get into office -- get use to it. Bushco lied, torpedoing the good service of John McCain in the 2000 primary. No, the lies didn&#039;t come from Bush&#039;s mouth, but he knew and said nothing -- condoning the lie. ALL POLITICIANS LIE. Get use to it.

I have no problem with people saying &quot;Clinton Lied. People Died.&quot;

http://www.davidcorn.com/archives/2005/08/clinton_liedand.php

Just as it is so obvious to me that &quot;Bush Lied. People Died.&quot;

So why is it so difficult for you to except the lie? Apparently, in your view he&#039;s a saint, free of any sin. I find your fanatical devotion to this failed president quite frightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh really? What evidence are you basing your assumption on? What, no links, no quotes? Something you heard Bill O&#8217;Lielly blabbering about on Faux news? NO PROOF.</p>
<p>I see. So to your way of thinking Hans Blix, Richard Clarke and anyone else in a position to know what they are talking about who dare to criticise your president are lying. Bush on the otherhand is a saint, who you&#8217;ll go to such lengths as to even look quite silly defending and insisting he never lied? I have to wonder, why such fanatical devotion to one politician. Politicians lie, that&#8217;s how they get into office &#8212; get use to it. Bushco lied, torpedoing the good service of John McCain in the 2000 primary. No, the lies didn&#8217;t come from Bush&#8217;s mouth, but he knew and said nothing &#8212; condoning the lie. ALL POLITICIANS LIE. Get use to it.</p>
<p>I have no problem with people saying &#8220;Clinton Lied. People Died.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.davidcorn.com/archives/2005/08/clinton_liedand.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.davidcorn.com/archives/2005/08/clinton_liedand.php</a></p>
<p>Just as it is so obvious to me that &#8220;Bush Lied. People Died.&#8221;</p>
<p>So why is it so difficult for you to except the lie? Apparently, in your view he&#8217;s a saint, free of any sin. I find your fanatical devotion to this failed president quite frightening.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
		<link>http://svenontech.com/2005/11/17/bush-lied-and-our-brain-died/comment-page-1/#comment-12553</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Richard Clarke right a book?  Ya, that&#039;s right and he said some things about Bush that didn&#039;t seem to pan out during the 9/11 Commision.  That&#039;s alright, I&#039;ll forego Hans&#039; book for his report to the UN that stated he did NOT have 100% access to all areas.  That, my friend, was a direct violation of UN Resolution 1441.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Richard Clarke right a book?  Ya, that&#8217;s right and he said some things about Bush that didn&#8217;t seem to pan out during the 9/11 Commision.  That&#8217;s alright, I&#8217;ll forego Hans&#8217; book for his report to the UN that stated he did NOT have 100% access to all areas.  That, my friend, was a direct violation of UN Resolution 1441.</p>
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		<title>By: TOS</title>
		<link>http://svenontech.com/2005/11/17/bush-lied-and-our-brain-died/comment-page-1/#comment-12552</link>
		<dc:creator>TOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems you are focusing on the inspections prior to 2003, as Hanz Blix says otherwise about the inspections in the time right before Bush&#039;s invasion. I guess you must think even the Swedes are conspiring to make Bush look like a liar.

Read from Hans Blix book &quot;Disarming Iraq&quot;:

http://www.randomhouse.com/pantheon/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780375423024&amp;view=excerpt

Although the inspection organization was now operating at full strength and Iraq seemed as determined to give it prompt access everywhere, the United States appeared determined to replace our inspection force with an invasion army...

Our inspectors in Iraq continued to work on Monday, March 17. They supervised the destruction of two Al Samoud 2 missiles, bringing the total number destroyed to seventy-two. They conducted a private interview with a biological scientist, bringing the total number of such private interviews to eleven. Inspection teams visited a dairy factory 140 kilometers north of Baghdad and two sites northwest of Baghdad. I worried about the risk of any hitches in the arrangements for their withdrawal on Tuesday morning.

...

In a televised speech on the evening of Monday, March 17, President Bush issued an ultimatum to Saddam Hussein to leave Iraq with his family within forty-eight hours. Vice President Dick Cheney said that an offer by Iraq to disarm was no longer an option. Referring to Saddam Hussein, he said, &quot;We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.&quot; His declaration was as firm as it was unfounded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems you are focusing on the inspections prior to 2003, as Hanz Blix says otherwise about the inspections in the time right before Bush&#8217;s invasion. I guess you must think even the Swedes are conspiring to make Bush look like a liar.</p>
<p>Read from Hans Blix book &#8220;Disarming Iraq&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.randomhouse.com/pantheon/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780375423024&#038;view=excerpt" rel="nofollow">http://www.randomhouse.com/pantheon/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780375423024&#038;view=excerpt</a></p>
<p>Although the inspection organization was now operating at full strength and Iraq seemed as determined to give it prompt access everywhere, the United States appeared determined to replace our inspection force with an invasion army&#8230;</p>
<p>Our inspectors in Iraq continued to work on Monday, March 17. They supervised the destruction of two Al Samoud 2 missiles, bringing the total number destroyed to seventy-two. They conducted a private interview with a biological scientist, bringing the total number of such private interviews to eleven. Inspection teams visited a dairy factory 140 kilometers north of Baghdad and two sites northwest of Baghdad. I worried about the risk of any hitches in the arrangements for their withdrawal on Tuesday morning.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>In a televised speech on the evening of Monday, March 17, President Bush issued an ultimatum to Saddam Hussein to leave Iraq with his family within forty-eight hours. Vice President Dick Cheney said that an offer by Iraq to disarm was no longer an option. Referring to Saddam Hussein, he said, &#8220;We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.&#8221; His declaration was as firm as it was unfounded.</p>
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