Solid Strategy Out, Polls In

Author: Sven Rafferty
Tuesday, November 22, 2005

Say what you will about Murtha’s call for pulling out of Iraq. There’s enough debate going on with that that I do not need to touch it. But I will point out something very interesting that I think will start coming to great light in the next few days. CNN caught Murtha defending his reason for the call for pull out of Iraq in what I would deem a very sad reason.

Earlier Monday, in his hometown of Johnstown, Pa., Murtha defended his call for a pullout, suggesting he was only following shifting American sentiment as reflected in polls and phone calls and e-mails to his office.

Wow, one of the most respected person in Congress with such a great military background changed his mind on Iraq not for reasons of strategy or of military input, but because of public pressure! No wonder Scott McCullin was “baffled” when he announced the White House’s response last week. I would be, too. How anyone with such military background could make such a statement didn’t makes sense. Now that we know it’s because his untrained constituents are the reason for his call to pull out, it does make sense. Kind of. I mean, it still doesn’t make sense how a guy of his caliber would sink to the public pressure level but at least now we know why made this announcement.

You know, this silly little exercise in vote-reward reminds me of a once great civilization that was a truly democratic society. The people ruled the direction of their nation and now it is no longer great. In fact, it’s just is no longer. Forget the Alamo, remember Greece!

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9 Responses to “Solid Strategy Out, Polls In”

  1. TOS Says:

    If you are going to be attacking Congressman Murtha, a decorated war vetaran, wouldn’t it be fair to quote something he actually said? Your entire post doesn’t contain any of the congressmans own words. Instead it contains the words of the author of the article you link to — Murtha is hardly “caught by CNN” as you indicate. Murtha has been giving LOTS of reasons why he’s changed his mind on Iraq. The only thing your article quotes him saying is: “The public turned against this war before I said it.” He’s not saying that is his reason. Leave it to the Republicans to have tunnel vision and try to take one statement of his out of context.

  2. Sven Says:

    Blame your beloved CNN if this is incorrect information. I only left it at that because most accept CNN as gospel. The article has not been refuted and I did hear him say this with his own voice on Fox News. But, since you have a distaste for fair and balanced, I’ll leave it at Ted’s word. ;)

  3. TOS Says:

    If what is incorrect information? You post contains NO QUOTES from Murtha. Again, if you are going to attack him for what he said, start by posting his statement, not one of from a reporters interpretation of what he said. Get it? Apparently not.

  4. Sven Says:

    I got it. Point taken and noted. Please apply this to your posts about Bush and him “lying” as well. Thank you.

  5. TOS Says:

    Here’s a big lie:

    “The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”

    – January 28, 2003, President Bush

  6. Sven Says:

    Huh, isn’t that like saying, “CNN reported, ‘Earlier Monday, in his hometown of Johnstown, Pa., Murtha defended his call for a pullout…’”? I mean, Bush was only telling the nation what the British government found out. He didn’t quote them. Come on, dude, you’re committing the very thing you told me not to do! Double standard.

  7. TOS Says:

    Your logic is astounding. You should join Mensa.

  8. Sven Says:

    Thank you, but there’s too many atheists in that group for me to be able to enjoy it. ;)

  9. TOS Says:

    You want quotes. I got quotes. Perhaps not all lies, but relevant. Too many sources for me to spend time providing links to all of them, but I believe them all to be accurate. If there are any you dispute as factual, let me know. Or better yet, search google yourself.

    “If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.” George W. Bush

    When Bush was asked about [the Environmental Protection Agency’s report] last week, he dismissively remarked: ‘I read the report put out by the bureaucracy.’ …White House press secretary Ari Fleischer fessed up: President Bush didn’t actually read that 268-page Environmental Protection Agency report on climate change, even if he said he did. Fleischer was asked Monday at his daily White House briefing about Bush’s comments that he’d read the report. “Whenever presidents say they read it, you can read that to be he was briefed,” Fleischer said, producing laughter. –AP, June 10, 2002

    “I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we’re really talking about peace.” George W. Bush

    “If we don’t stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, we’re going to have a serious problem coming down the road.” George W. Bush

    “The reason we start a war is to fight a war, win a war, thereby causing no more war.” George W. Bush

    “Our nation is somewhat sad, but we’re angry. There’s a certain level of blood lust, but we won’t let it drive our reaction. We’re steady, clear-eyed and patient, but pretty soon we’ll have to start displaying scalps.” George W. Bush

    “I know that the human being and the fish can coexist peacefully.” George W. Bush, October 1st 2000 (O.K. this one’s just funny)

    “I think war is a dangerous place.” George W. Bush

    “Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”
    George W. Bush, 4/9/99
    since I know you’ve questioned this one before: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_W._Bush

    “I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”
    George W. Bush, 6/5/99

    “It doesn’t make any sense to have a timetable. You know, if you give a timetable, you’re — you’re conceding too much to the enemy.”
    George W. Bush, 6/24/05